[Lvlug] Linux Action show host rips on Fedora 11

[Patrick Bartek]

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, heath petty <hpetty1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Its funny how many problems he had
> that were related to closed and/or
> sudo opensource software. Everyone knows that if you want
> full
> functionality out of your nvidia card you have to install
> the nvidia
> driver. Fedora put nouveu in F11 so it could get more
> testing, if you
> don't like it then install the nvidia driver, or go back to
> using the
> nv driver. Also, I had no problems with the 32 bit livecd
> on my laptop
> (Thinkpad T60), it installed flawlessly. Keep in mind I
> also used a
> USB key rather than an actual CDROM, but its the same
> image. I've also
> had no problem with the sound app. I did run into some
> trouble with
> the 32 bit livecd on KVM, but it could also have been
> related to the
> fact that seamonkey was eating up all my RAM so when I
> fired up the
> livecd it might have choked my system. I use seamonkey,
> because
> Firefox is too buggy.
> 
> It sounds to me this guy wants Fedora to be Ubuntu, which
> its not, nor
> does it pretend to be. Fedora is a distro where new
> features and
> technologies get introduced to a wide audience. If he wants
> more
> stability then he can run Ubuntu, or many of the other
> distros that
> focus on that. Many of the technologies introduced in
> Fedora make
> their way into Ubuntu (i.e. Network Manager, kvm/libvirt
> etc.).
> 
> -Heath

I can see his point though: If the LiveCD is problematical, it doesn't speak well of the distro.  Very bad PR.  LiveCDs should just work.  With most any system, old or new.  LiveCDs, because of the economy of a single CD, are going to be used by most people as the sole evaluation of the distro.  It shouldn't be a test bed for really, really cutting edge stuff.  Leave that for a "testing" version install as opposed to a "stable" one, a concept that works pretty well for Debian.

When I was using Fedora Core 6, Fedora 7 debuted the same way--with problems.  It involved major "improvements" from previous versions, so much so, that "Core" was dropped for the name.  8 was better.  9 was good enough after about 6 months of updates for me to upgrade, and it's been running fine since.

I imagine by 12 or 13, all should be well, again.

FYI:  With VirtualBox, the 11 LiveCD came up with only an 800 x 600 screen that could not be increased, and an "Unknown Monitor"--never had that happen before.  However, when run on the real hardware, it recognized the monitor, a 19" LG flat panel, and ran at full resolution -- 1280 x 1024.  Go figure.

When I tried to install in VirtualBox, I got an error during the partitioning that stopped the install cold.  Same thing happened with KVM-qemu.  Not going to try a real install.  Don't want to risk screwing up my system.  It only has the one hard drive at the moment. ;-)


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> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Patrick Bartek<bartek047 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Chris Louden <chris at chrislouden.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> http://lunduke.com/?p=699
> >>
> >> i won't post direct quotes, but hes not very kind
> to what
> >> 11 has to offer.
> >
> > I pretty much agree.
> >
> > I've had nothing but trouble with the 32-bit
> LiveCD.  (Yes, I checked it:  the download and the
> CD after burning it.)  Took forever to boot in
> VirtualBox, and then didn't run well at all.  Never
> could get it to install.  Didn't fair much better
> running on the real hardware of my AMD Ahtlon64 machine with
> nVidia chipset and nVidia graphics card.
> >
> > I figure, if the LiveCD doesn't work all that well,
> can the full install be any better?  So, for now, I'm
> sticking with 9, the 64-bit version.
> >
> >
> > B