[Lvas] Lvas Digest, Vol 21, Issue 14
John Boron
jboron at cox.net
Fri Mar 13 21:21:11 PDT 2009
Roger, I have a 10" Intes Mak-Cass. It is mounted on a Losmandy G-11, using
Digital Setting Circles. It is a very robust set-up but tears down and sets
up quickly.
The night I was viewing the Virgo galaxy cluster I was using a wide angle 40
mm University Optics 2" eyepiece. I saw M-84 and M-86 clearly but I could
barely make out the other galaxies. I switched to a Collins I3 image
intensifier eyepiece that incorporates a 24 mm Teleview eyepiece. That
helped out a lot.
John Boron
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> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:03:58 -0500
> From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] 12 years ago
> To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society <lvas at lvlug.org>
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> Roger,
>
>
>
> Hale used a 16" if I remember right. I seem to remember something about a
> DS-16, but not sure about it.
>
>
>
> I was always wondering what you did for a living! Must be nice.
>
>
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
> From: drivester at hotmail.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:29:10 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>
>
>
> Fred,
>
> Thanks for sharing the great photo. I remember reading about an article of
> how he just "stumbled" upon the comet with a 16-inch scope. Is this true?
>
> If you recall Robert Burnham Jr. of the Celestial Handbooks actually found
> his first comet the night he received a new 6 or 8-inch reflector OTA
> only. He did not have a mount and was using the railing of his porch to
> prop the scope up to observe...and there it was. This was pretty amazing.
> Especially considering that some people spent their entire life in a
> systematic scientific approach and never find a comet.
>
> What kind of telescope was he using...maybe a Meade Starfinder? Was it a
> Dobsonian or an equatorial?
>
> Regarding observer's such as Hale being unemployed: I was an Industrial
> Engineer for various industries and companies for over 32 years and found
> myself unemployed on several occasions as they would either close or go
> bankrupt.
>
> As a matter of fact I have taken the last four and a half years off...due
> to my last company downsizing management. I do a variety of self
> employment things on my own, and am doing quite well. I do not miss all
> the stress and hassle of a 8 to 10 hour "working for the man" kinda thing.
> I was always under "incredible stress". Too many tight projects and
> expectations from the company owners and top management. I could never go
> back to that, and I have never been a good follower.
>
> I set my own schedule which allows me to live my life to the fullest. I
> consider myself fortunate indeed...not unemployed. I purchase my own
> health insurance through a HSA through Blue Cross Blue shield for only
> $200 per month. It is a $5,000 deductable with no drug card or doctors
> visit. My wife and I have always lived within our means.
> My good friend and my MD (internist) always ride on his Wednesday
> afternoons off and I can work out with weights in my exercise room anytime
> I choose. I am also a certified road bike technician. I maintain bunches
> of high end road bikes as one of my many diverse occupations...of my home
> business.
>
> Stay healthy, be frugal, and you can live on less than you ever thought.
>
> Roger
>
>
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>
> I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
> earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
> the heavens and say there is no God. Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: rayworth1969 at hotmail.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:37:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>
>
>
> Roger,
>
> Wish I could draw like you! Outstanding drawings.
>
> I met Hale in Oklahoma in 96 or 97. At the time he was unemployed. Even
> famous observers have their hard times!
>
> Attached is a photo of him posing with me and my oldest granddaughter.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: drivester at hotmail.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:20:10 +0000
> Subject: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>
>
>
> It's hard to believe that it has been 12 years since Hale-Bopp streaked
> across the overhead and northern sky.
>
> I have attached a sketch from the night of March 16th 1997. I was using my
> 10-inch reflector with a 20mm UO Erfle and a 2.8x UO Klee barlow.
> Magnification was 160X with a FOV of 0.38? or 23 minutes of arc.
>
> The sketch was made at 4:00 AM local EST. The temperature was 29?.
>
> I was using high magnification to study the nucleus and coma.
>
> Using a small RF telescope at low power I measured a tail of over 5?
>
> I noted the coordinates at: Right ascention: 23h 15m Declination:
> +44? 30 minutes
>
> Now that was a comet...
>
> I also attached NGC 3226-3227 interacting galaxies.
>
> Best regards, Roger Ivester
>
>
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> From: David Blanchette <Yahoo at awit.com>
> Subject: [Lvas] Observing: Redstone, Saturday March 14
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> Doesn't look like the weather is going to cooperate as well as I'd
> hoped, so I will not be going out Saturday.
>
> -- David
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> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:59:30 +0000
> From: roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Lvas] Questions and other?
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> Fred,
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>
>
> You did tell me that you had the complete set of Q70 eyepieces from
> Orion...correct?
>
> Is the field flat...what about the stars at the edge? An f/4.5 telescope
> will really tax any wide field eyepiece.
>
>
> At a dark site all nine galaxies of the Virgo cluster should be easily
> framed and seen with your 16-inch Lightbridge. Most should be fairly
> bright...
>
>
>
> I would like to observe this cluster with your 16-inch...sketching again
> and compare the difference versus my 10-inch.
>
>
>
> When I used to look at those big robust Cave reflectors during the 60's
> and early 70's I thought that a 10-inch scope was the "biggest" scope an
> amateur could ever have.
>
>
>
>
>
> John, what kind of 10-inch Maksutov do you have, brand, etc?
> Maksutov-Cassegrain? I presume it is equatorially mounted? What was the
> Tele-vue eyepiece that you was using?
>
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
> I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
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> From: roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Lvas] An Amateurs Life
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> Fred,
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>
>
> I forgot to mention something. I had to work an average of 60+ hours per
> week which was mostly six days per week....sometimes seven. The pay was
> good but I lost or sold
>
> 32 years of my life.
>
>
>
> Analogy:
>
>
>
> It was like riding the Tour de France every day for 32 years and each day
> consisted of climbing the famed "Alp d'huez". I think this helped me
> become a better amateur bicycle rider as it helped me to endure suffering
> and only pedal harder. A pretty sad story...right?
>
>
>
> I was responsible for two manufacturing plants plus the engineering staffs
> as a sideline. I can't ever remember a time when any of the staff or plant
> mangement was happy. These were very large plants employing as many as 300
> or more people each.
>
>
>
> Oh, but to be relieved of that burden after all those years. Now you see
> why I feel the way I do...relief.
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: rayworth1969 at hotmail.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:03:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>
>
>
> Roger,
>
> Hale used a 16" if I remember right. I seem to remember something about a
> DS-16, but not sure about it.
>
> I was always wondering what you did for a living! Must be nice.
>
> Fred
>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:06 -0700
> From: "John Boron" <jboron at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Lvas Digest, Vol 21, Issue 13-Virgo
> To: <lvas at lvlug.org>
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> Roger, if you can send the scanned copy of your sketch I would appreciate
> it
> very much.
>
> I am planning to go to a very dark site in Arizona the weekend of 19-22
> March, about 15 miles SE of Winslow AZ. The site is called the Rock Art
> Ranch. Virgo should be high in the middle of the night. I will try my hand
> at sketching and give a report the following week.
>
> John Boron
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>> 1. Re: Virgo Cluster Observing Tecnique (Fred Rayworth)
>> 2. Re: Lvas Digest, Vol 21, Issue 10 (Fred Rayworth)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:58:59 -0500
>> From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Virgo Cluster Observing Tecnique
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>> Roger, and All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have quite a bit of catching up to do! I'm crossing my fingers that
>> next
>> Saturday will be "the" night, but around here you never know what the sky
>> is going to do!
>>
>>
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: drivester at hotmail.com
>> To: lvas at lvlug.org
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:17:05 +0000
>> Subject: [Lvas] Virgo Cluster Observing Tecnique
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a follow-up from yesterday's discussion regarding the "Virgo
>> Cluster" which is pretty much centered around M-84 and M-86.
>>
>> My friend and book author, Tom Lorenzin...author of 1000+ The Amateur
>> Astronomer's Field Guide to Deep-Sky Observing pointed out the nine
>> galaxies one evening. I could hardly wait to to observe this group. Tom
>> called this 1? degree field of galaxies "The Nonet".
>>
>> The galaxies comprised in this group are E to W; NGC-4435, 4438, 4425,
>> 4407, 4406 (M-86) 4413, 4387, 4388, 4374 (M-84).
>>
>> I will send a scanned copy of my sketch with each galaxy identified to
>> all
>> if there is anyone who would like to have it for identification purposes.
>>
>> I will also submit a detailed description of each in the final observing
>> report...hopefully along with observing notes from many others.
>>
>> I found it necessary to use an unusual technique to observe this group. I
>> don't normally use my RA motor for tracking but in this case it was
>> necessary. I hand guide almost all the time. With polar alignment I do
>> not
>> find it objectionable to slightly nudge the scope in RA to keep the
>> object
>> in view.
>>
>> Some of the galaxies are too faint to be seen at the low power of 57x. I
>> had to use a 20mm UO Erfle to get a 1.1? degree field as I had mentioned
>> in the previous e-mail.
>>
>> I found it necessary to look at a photograph of this group and use a
>> minimum of 114x ...maybe up to 150x to see and study the fainter
>> galaxies.
>> I would then draw them in their appropriate location and also to the
>> proper scale as compared to the brighter ones.
>>
>> With a 10-inch telescope it is necessary to use over 100x to "just see"
>> galaxies that are fainter than 12th magnitude...most of the time. Of
>> course it depends on the concentration and surface brightness of the
>> galaxy, and of course sky conditions.
>>
>> John, your with your 10-inch f/12.5 Maksutov with a focal length of 3175
>> mm's it is going to be hard for you to get a 1? degree field. You may
>> want
>> to use your eyepiece with the greatest field and then use a photograph as
>> I do and try moving the scope to the location of each galaxy. Memorizing
>> from the photo where they should be in relationship to M-84 and M-86. I
>> would love to hear your results.
>>
>> Fred, your 16-inch should show this entire group nicely using your 38mm
>> Q70 2-inch. With your focal ratio of 1828 mm's you should be able to
>> place
>> all galaxies in your 48x magnification. The greater light gathering
>> ability of your 16-inch versus my 10-inch should be significate and you
>> should be able to see all the fainter galaxies at the lower power. Like
>> John I can hardly wait for your report.
>>
>> 48x/70? AF = 69 arc mins or a 1.15? degree FOV.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
>> earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
>> the heavens and say there is no God. Abraham Lincoln
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:00:23 -0500
>> From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Lvas Digest, Vol 21, Issue 10
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>> John,
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>>
>>
>> Thanks! I'm wondering if I'll pick all out the next time I go out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: jboron at cox.net
>>> To: lvas at lvlug.org
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:38:56 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Lvas Digest, Vol 21, Issue 10
>>>
>>> Roger and Fred, I enjoyed the exchange and the sketches. I was in Death
>>> Valley the last week of February on a particularly dark night. I was
>>> amazed
>>> at all the galaxies in the area of M 84 - 85. I was using a 10 "
>>> Maksutov
>>> f
>>> 12.5 with a 24mm televue. The fov is very small but the least little
>>> movement of the 'scope brought another galaxy in to view. I must have
>>> spent
>>> 30 minutes in that one area.
>>>
>>> John
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>>> To: <lvas at lvlug.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:13 PM
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>>> >
>>> > 1. Re: Our last Deep-Sky object (Fred Rayworth)
>>> > 2. Re: Observing: Redstone, Saturday March 14 (Fred Rayworth)
>>> > 3. Re: 12 years ago (Fred Rayworth)
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:31:23 -0500
>>> > From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lvas] Our last Deep-Sky object
>>> > To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society <lvas at lvlug.org>
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>>> >
>>> > Roger,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Very cool drawings! I'll have to go back through my notes to see what
>>> > I
>>> > found there.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Anyone else out there have some feedback?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Fred
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: drivester at hotmail.com
>>> > To: lvas at lvlug.org
>>> > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:44:11 +0000
>>> > Subject: [Lvas] Our last Deep-Sky object
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > LVAS
>>> >
>>> > This will be our last deep-sky observing object for review...following
>>> > this months NGC-2403 in Camelopardalis.
>>> >
>>> > This would have to be one of my most favorite galaxy cluster's. M-84
>>> > and
>>> > M-86 are the two brighter objects. I really enjoy observing galaxy
>>> > cluster's and interacting galaxies as in this case you can observe
>>> > nine
>>> > galaxies in a 1? FOV.
>>> >
>>> > The sketch was made with my 10-inch f/4.5 reflector at 57x. I was
>>> > using
>>> > a
>>> > 20 mm UO Erfle with a 1.1? FOV. The sketch was made from my back deck
>>> > with
>>> > a light block curtain. This was an extraordinary evening as both
>>> > seeing
>>> > and transparency were excellent. The date and time was 3-16-99 @ 11:00
>>> > PM
>>> > Local EST.
>>> >
>>> > The sketch was made with a No. 2 pencil on white paper and I have
>>> > inverted
>>> > the colors on my scanner.
>>> >
>>> > How many galaxies will you be able to see?
>>> >
>>> > We will conclude our observing projects ending with this galaxy
>>> > cluster
>>> > with all information due by April 25th. The final report will be
>>> > issued
>>> > the first week of May.
>>> >
>>> > I hope each of you have enjoyed our deep-sky observing project so far
>>> > and
>>> > that everyone has gained something. It is my sincere hope that you
>>> > will
>>> > be
>>> > able to use some of the material and notes to benefit your own
>>> > personal
>>> > observing program.
>>> >
>>> > Roger
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
>>> > earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up
>>> > into
>>> > the heavens and say there is no God. Abraham Lincoln
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:32:16 -0500
>>> > From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lvas] Observing: Redstone, Saturday March 14
>>> > To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society <lvas at lvlug.org>
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>>> > Not really interested with an almost full moon, but I wish you all the
>>> > best.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Fred
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:43:43 -0700
>>> > From: scopegeek at gmail.com
>>> > To: lvas at lvlug.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lvas] Observing: Redstone, Saturday March 14
>>> >
>>> > Depends on how my wife is feeling Saturday - she's having some surgery
>>> > tomorrow, so it just depends. I would love to go out with you, since I
>>> > haven't been out for a couple of weeks.
>>> >
>>> > Rob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Blanchette <Yahoo at awit.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Anyone up for a night out?
>>> >
>>> > The weather has been tricky this week, but there seems to be a good
>>> > chance for good weather on Saturday. Friday looks clear, but the
>>> > seeing looks bad, so I'm opting for Saturday.
>>> >
>>> > -- David
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Rob Lambert
>>> > 702-461-1390
>>> >
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>>> > Message: 3
>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:37:08 -0500
>>> > From: Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>>> > To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society <lvas at lvlug.org>
>>> > Message-ID: <BAY119-W1B3C86926CB7C50A2A60FD49C0 at phx.gbl>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Roger,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Wish I could draw like you! Outstanding drawings.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I met Hale in Oklahoma in 96 or 97. At the time he was unemployed.
>>> > Even
>>> > famous observers have their hard times!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Attached is a photo of him posing with me and my oldest granddaughter.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Fred
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: drivester at hotmail.com
>>> > To: lvas at lvlug.org
>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:20:10 +0000
>>> > Subject: [Lvas] 12 years ago
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It's hard to believe that it has been 12 years since Hale-Bopp
>>> > streaked
>>> > across the overhead and northern sky.
>>> >
>>> > I have attached a sketch from the night of March 16th 1997. I was
>>> > using
>>> > my
>>> > 10-inch reflector with a 20mm UO Erfle and a 2.8x UO Klee barlow.
>>> > Magnification was 160X with a FOV of 0.38? or 23 minutes of arc.
>>> >
>>> > The sketch was made at 4:00 AM local EST. The temperature was 29?.
>>> >
>>> > I was using high magnification to study the nucleus and coma.
>>> >
>>> > Using a small RF telescope at low power I measured a tail of over 5?
>>> >
>>> > I noted the coordinates at: Right ascention: 23h 15m Declination:
>>> > +44? 30 minutes
>>> >
>>> > Now that was a comet...
>>> >
>>> > I also attached NGC 3226-3227 interacting galaxies.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards, Roger Ivester
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
>>> > earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up
>>> > into
>>> > the heavens and say there is no God. Abraham Lincoln
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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