[LVAS] Concerning IC 10

Fri Dec 11 19:58:57 PST 2009

All,

I wasn't kidding when I said it was less than spectacular! That's about what it looked like through my 16" visually. 

Looked like a distant open cluster rather than a galaxy. It certainly didn't have any shape to it.

Great photo. Thanks!

Fred

From: scopegeek at gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:19:31 -0800
To: lvas at lvlug.org
Subject: Re: [LVAS] Concerning IC 10

It's definitely there, Jim.  For some reason, I can see it better in your uncropped image.  It's tiny, but it's there, almost dead center of your image.  There seems to be a much wider haze all around it that even encompasses the two brighter stars that are below and right of center.  See the attached file.  I could not see the galaxy while the image was embedded in your email. It was only after saving the file and bringing it up outside the email, that I could see it, so observe the image in its native form.  I've circled the galaxy in the smaller circle and the larger hazy area in the larger circle.  Some of the haze I could see actually extends even beyond the boundaries of the larger circle.

Good job.

Rob 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Jim Gianoulakis wrote:

Hey Rob. I shot this with a 110mm apo. I cropped the image I sent you to match the scale of the reference image from the web. I attached the uncropped version.
Jim

>>> Robert Lambert <scopegeek at gmail.com> 12/11/2009 12:03 PM >>>

I wish I had set up to capture this object the other night.  I had just gotten my Mallincam back from Rock Mallin.  He upgraded my MCHP  to have the capabilities of the new Variable Shutter System Mallincam minus the wireless remote capability.  So I was just testing the system and had just gotten Roger's note concerning IC-10 so I thought I would give it a shot from my driveway.  Again, after seeing the web image Jim attached, I am convinced that I had this bugger in my sights.  I was observing it through the ST120 so it was much smaller, but it was definitely this object that I was seeing.  I'm going to get IC-10 in an image next week.  We're supposed to have clouds through the weekend, so as soon as I get a clear night, I'm out to Redstone to capture this baby.

Talk to you guys later.

Rob 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Jim Gianoulakis wrote:

Sorry I've been out of touch for a while. I processed the frames I captured last night of IC 10 and attached the result. I have a lot to learn about processing so I'm not sure if I didn't capture the nebulosity of the galaxy or just don't know how to pull it out yet. I downloaded an image from the web of IC10 and cropped my image to match the scale. Lining up the stars at least I captured the correct area but again the galaxy structure itself needs some imagination to see. I'll keep working on the processing to see if I can pull out any additional detail. Thanks Roger for bringing  this challenge to mind, otherwise I doubt I ever would have tackled it.

Jim

>>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 12/11/2009 7:08 AM >>>
Fred and all,

Re: IC 10

I missed a good opportunity last night to look for this object...just had something to come up at the last minute. It was a bit cold (20's) and somewhat breezy but the transparency was excellent. I may have a small window tonight. A front will be coming in on Saturday with the possibility of some light snow and freezing rain on Saturday.

I was just looking at an atlas and thought about a couple more objects in the far N that was difficult for me.  It was a good feeling when I finally saw them.

1. IC 1747 PN in Cas 13.5 M with a very faint central star...I came in smiling that night back in the early 90's. 

2. NGC 188 OC, just a few degrees from Polaris. It took me several nights of spending an hour or more each time. I would just give up and go to other things...finally all things were right and there it was. This was almost 20 years ago but I can remember it as well as if it were yesterday. As you said about IC 10, not terribly exciting but I saw it.

I am glad that both you and Rob have been able to see IC 10. Hopefully I will be able to see it also.

roger 

From: rayworth1969 at hotmail.com
To: lvas at lvlug.org
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:51:10 -0600
Subject: Re: [LVAS] Amargosa

Roger and all,

I saw it for the first time that last night at Redstone on 21 November.

It was just a faint glow against the background and now I know why I missed it. After seeing it described by a few other visual observers, I kind of knew what to look for. The last time I tried was I think at Cathedral Gorge and again at Death Valley and never saw it. I was looking for a faint fuzzy oval that was not very big. However, IC-10 was just a medium-sized faint glow that looked more like a distant open cluster. Though it was a thrill to finally find it, it was dramatially unimpressive to look at!

Fred

From: drivester at hotmail.com
To: lvas at lvlug.org
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:48:27 +0000
Subject: Re: [LVAS] Amargosa

Rob,

If you should observe tonight, would you please take a look at IC-10 in Cassiopeia? I am in discussion with a couple others concerning this faint galaxy.

I have never observed this galaxy and would really be interested in both your visual and Mallincam view. I am hopeful to attempt before the weekend.

Jim Dire sent me an e-mail saying that he was going to attempt a very long exposure of our December object (NGC-474 group) if at all possible.

Hey, if I were there I would sure go with you. It is mostly cloudy here tonight and the wind is really howling.

Good luck, roger

    The moon and stars to govern the night.....   Psalm 136:9

> From: scopegeek at gmail.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:08:38 -0800
> Subject: [LVAS] Amargosa
> 
> Considering a run up to Amargosa Valley tonight - may be our only 
> clear night before Christmas. Got my Mallincam back today. Anyone 
> interested?
> 
> Rob
> 
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