[Lvas] FW: Virgo Diamond Report Revised

Thu Apr 23 09:30:32 PDT 2009

I'm going to work on a more detailed shot of each of these galaxies over
the next few nights. I'll post them if I have any luck.

Jim

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>>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 4/21/2009 5:36 AM >>>

Jim,

Skiff and Lunginbuhl; Observing Handbook And Catalog of Deep-Sky
Objects: NGC-3628: The companion galaxy to M-65/66.  "The halo extends
to 10' x 1', elongated E-W; it extends more W than E from the center".
Your image shows this very nicely.

Many years ago Tom English taught me how to "squint" my eyes when
looking at a photo to see fine detail that might be visually seen
through a telescope. I find myself using this technique all the time
when comparing notes to images. I wonder if Tom remembers teaching this
to me? If you will try this technique you can see the greater
concentration in the halo toward the W. It is very subtle, but can be
seen.   

Tom Lorenzin of 1000+: "10.3 magnitude 12' x 2' extent"; 

For all others reading. Jim's image orientation; N is up, right is W. I
will look for the greater extension to the W, hopefully this weekend. I
do not not mention this in any of my notes. 

M-65: S/L note a stellar nucleus at low power using a 60mm refractor.
My notes do not mention this either, as I indicate only a brighter more
concentrated middle with my 10-inch.

Jim, from close examination of your image there seems to be much that I
have missed. Thanks again for sharing.  

Very elongated galaxies such as NGC-3628 with a ratio of 10 to 1 seem
to my favorites. 

Observer from North Carolina, and best regards....Roger Ivester        

    I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
the heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln

Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:25:13 -0700
From: Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com 
To: lvas at lvlug.org 
Subject: Re: [Lvas] Virgo Diamond Report Revised

Roger thanks for staying engaged. Your efforts have inspired several to
observe more than they normally would. I know they have inspired me. I
included a couple of photos I shot Saturday night from my backyard. The
Leo Triplet and M27.
Thanks again,
Jim 

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>>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 4/19/2009 6:48 PM >>>
Fred, and John

I do appreciate your very kind words and I thank you. I will have the
two sketches in the mail early week. It takes a day for the blue paint
to dry and I coat the sketch with a light coat of clear acrylic sealer
to prevent the charcoal from smearing.  

I did receive an e-mail from Jim Dire this afternoon. He is planning on
an image of the diamond and the Virgo cluster this coming weekend. He
and his wife have been on a tropical vacation.

The weather shows to be excellent at this time, but that can change
fast this far out. 

Again, I was really surprised that Tom English could see the fifth star
so easily. Tom has worked tirelessly for years in astronomy without
receiving much fanfare, or compliments. 

Fred, I am sure that he will appreciate your enthusiasm regarding his
observational notes, and sketches of Friday night. I just forwarded your
e-mail to him. 

roger

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earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
the heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln

From: rayworth1969 at hotmail.com 
To: lvas at lvlug.org 
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:19:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Lvas] Virgo Diamond Report Revised

Tom,

Wow! Those are excellent notes and drawings. A fine job. I'm crossing
my fingers I can get out next weekend and do the same.

Thank you Roger for carrying the torch!

Roger, I am honored to be receiving a sketch you did of the Virgo
Diamond. It will sit in a place of honor on my wall.

Did anyone else get out last night? I'd like to hear a report if any of
you are willing to take a few minutes.

Fred

From: drivester at hotmail.com 
To: lvas at lvlug.org; trenglish at gtcc.edu 
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:10:32 +0000
Subject: [Lvas] Virgo Diamond Report Revised

LVAS all,

I misread Tom's original report. He did see the fifth star and supplied
an excellent sketch. Tom may be the first person to visually observe the
fifth star. 

Weather and conditions permitting I am going to attempt tonight with my
10-inch. I really don't expect to see the fifth star, but I am going to
try.

Roger

> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:27:43 -0400
> From: trenglish at gtcc.edu 
> To: drivester at hotmail.com 
> CC: gsostars at yahoo.com 
> Subject: RE: Saw the diamond
> 
> Roger,
> See attached notes.
> Note: I'm also copying this to Jeff Walters, who stayed after the
> session to observe this object with me.
> I drew the first sketch quickly at the observatory observing the
> diamond, and added the notes and drew the second sketch after
shutting
> down and walking over to my office. I then took a look at the SDSS
> image and realized I probably drew the diamond too large. (I tend to
do
> this - like most people, apparently, judging from my student
observing
> form submissions - it's easy to stretch the object in your mind as
> occupying more of the field of view than it does.)
> After that, I went home and made the final sketch, which isn't
great,
> but seems pretty representative of what we saw. (It's limited by the
> poorly sharpened pencil...). I'm still not absolutely certain of the
> size, since I didn't do any specific measurements - it's likely
closer
> to the final sketch, but might be somewhere between the two
renditions.
> -t.e
> 
> >>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 04/18/09 9:01 AM >>>
> 
> Tom,
> 
> 
> 
> You could see the fifth star????
> 
> 
> 
> roger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:49:53 -0400
> > From: trenglish at gtcc.edu 
> > To: drivester at hotmail.com 
> > Subject: RE: Saw the diamond
> > 
> > Roger - I was not clear in my report.
> > I could not see the double at 127x
> > But IT SHOWED WELL with the 21mm and again with the 10.5.
> > 
> > 
> > >>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 04/18/09 8:15 AM >>>
> > 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > That is great. You are the only the second person that I am aware
of
> to
> > visually observe this object.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I will have your diamond sketch complete by Wednesday. The diamond
> >with the blue matting looks much nicer if it is framed. 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:43:01 -0400
> > From: trenglish at gtcc.edu 
> > To: drivester at hotmail.com 
> > Subject: Saw the diamond
> > 
> > 
> > We looked at it tonight with the 16-inch at the end of the public
> night
> > session.
> > Great conditions. 
> > Saw it right away at 127x (32mm), but couldn't really see the
double. 
> > It showed well with the 21mm (193.5x) though, and looked great
with
> the
> > 10.5mm (387x).
> > This is a really nice object. 
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