[Lvas] Lvas Digest, Vol 22, Issue 11

Fri Apr 3 10:40:20 PDT 2009

The Virgo Diamond you speak of has a central point location of:
RA: 12h 33m 18s
DEC: -00˚ 36' 00''

A photo from the SLOAN DIGITAL SKY SURVEY (SDSS) can be found here:

http://astronomerica.awardspace.com/SDSS-76/VirgoDiamond-SDSS.jpg

I would love to try to find this item and will try this weekend if
conditions permit.

-Michael

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, <lvas-request at lvlug.org> wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:17:44 +0000
> From: roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Lvas] Image Request Virgo Diamond Tonight???
> To: <lvas at lvlug.org>
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> Jim Gianoulakis,
>
>
>
> I just talked with my son and he said that the skies were clear in LV
> earlier, but with very high winds.
>
>
>
> The moon has little effect on the imaging of stars and I have done some of
> my finest double and multiple star work with an 80% moon. It has little
> effect on visual observing unless the stars are at the limit of the
> telescope being used.
>
>
>
> If you have the opportunity to do this work it would be most appreciated. I
> know that you have a home observatory and it would be relatively easy for
> you to observe...conditions allowing. I would like to have something for S&T
> by Monday AM if at all possible.
>
>
>
> If you should be available for this work...would you send me your image
> asap. Please be sure to write on the e-mail that you are giving S&T
> permission to use your image in any way that they see fitting. Your name
> will always be included in stuff like this. Be sure to note your scope and
> all other "imaging" information of importance for Dennis to use.
>
>
>
> You could very well be the first to present a "modern image" by an amateur
> of the Virgo Diamond.  Good things could become of this.
>
>
>
> Let me know? I will be out tonight if weather permits.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth
> and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the
> heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:29:49 -0700
> From: Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Markarian's Chain
>
>
>
>
> I hope you are able to read this file. It is a word file. I annotated the
> galaxies I could identify but may have missed some.
>
> Jim Gianoulakis
> Manager Application Services Mobile
> 702-876-7093
> 702-253-7213 fax
> jim.gianoulakis at swgas.com
>
> >>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 4/2/2009 5:54 AM >>>
> Jim,
>
> Just could not help to notice one most interesting features of your
> write-up. You have some very nice descriptive notes of some of the most
> interesting galaxies. Good job!!!!
>
> This is my "humble" request. If you image, please do as Jim has done.
> Carefully examine your image and write some notes. This will improve your
> observing skills and allow you to see fine details that you may have
> overlooked. Again Jim, good job and thanks for sharing.
>
> I should have asked you for permission but there are plenty of amateurs
> admiring your excellent work as of this moment...8:41 AM local EDT.
>
> Re: Galaxy classifications. This would be a great job for someone who does
> not do a great deal of observing, but would like to contribute and be
> recognized for your efforts. We will all learn something from "your
> research".
>
> Best regards, and thanks again...Roger Ivester
>
>
>    I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth
> and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the
> heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:49:12 -0700
> From: Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Markarian's Chain
>
>
>
>
> I captured this image this evening from my backyard and wanted to share.
>
> Jim Gianoulakis
> Manager Application Services Mobile
> 702-876-7093
> 702-253-7213 fax
> jim.gianoulakis at swgas.com
>
> >>> Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com> 3/29/2009 12:37 PM >>>
> All,
>
> My final input for Roger's observing project is to see if I could see all
> nine galaxies aroud M-84 and M-86, which is a large part of Markarian's
> Chain in Virgo, the realm of galaxies.
>
> Virgo was high enough in the sky to take a crack at it, and with a little
> zap of my green laser finder, I had this group in the field of view in an
> instant.
>
> I had no trouble at all seeing all nine galaxies in the field, and because
> of this observing project, I saw that ninth one for the first time, only
> because I knew it was there.
>
> NGC-4387 is magnitude 13, and considering the night, it was by far the
> faintest galaxy I saw all night. If I hadn't known it was there, I would
> have missed it. In fact, several other people looked at the group and only
> counted 8. I don't feel bad missing it so many times before!
>
> I used a 26mm Q-70 eyepiece from Orion. It has a 70 degree field, and
> despite a fishbowl effect at the edges, I had no problem seeing even the
> galaxies at the edges. Of course, I moved around a bit to catch each one in
> the center of the field, but to satisfy the observing challenge, I DID see
> all 9 at once in the field.
>
> All of the galaxies, even M-84 and M-86 were featureless. No mottling or
> any detail at all, but they were all definite faint fuzzies and all had
> distinct shapes. The most fascinating of the group, to me, was NGC-4388, an
> edge-on spiral. It was a nice, though faint large streak, and out sized and
> outclassed the similar NGC-4402.
>
> This is the stuff I live for! Seeing nine galaxies at once, and being able
> to positively identify every one of them is a real thrill.
>
> Attached is my requisite crummy drawing, but it should give you an idea of
> what you will see if you have enough aperture.
>
> Fred
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> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:24:58 -0700
> From: "Jim Gianoulakis" <Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Image Request Virgo Diamond Tonight???
> To: <lvas at lvlug.org>
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> I'd be happy to give it a shot. I will be out tonight if the winds
> abate. Re-reading previous posts has not turned up the location info
> about this asterism, I may have deleted them. When I googled Virgo
> Diamond the info returned was not this asterism but a larger diamond
> shape that included Arcturis and Denebola. Would you please forward to
> me the email(s) containing the information to locate the object.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> Jim Gianoulakis
> Manager Application Services Mobile
> 702-876-7093
> 702-253-7213 fax
> jim.gianoulakis at swgas.com
>
> >>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 4/3/2009 10:17 AM >>>
> Jim Gianoulakis,
>
> I just talked with my son and he said that the skies were clear in LV
> earlier, but with very high winds.
>
> The moon has little effect on the imaging of stars and I have done some
> of my finest double and multiple star work with an 80% moon. It has
> little effect on visual observing unless the stars are at the limit of
> the telescope being used.
>
> If you have the opportunity to do this work it would be most
> appreciated. I know that you have a home observatory and it would be
> relatively easy for you to observe...conditions allowing. I would like
> to have something for S&T by Monday AM if at all possible.
>
> If you should be available for this work...would you send me your image
> asap. Please be sure to write on the e-mail that you are giving S&T
> permission to use your image in any way that they see fitting. Your name
> will always be included in stuff like this. Be sure to note your scope
> and all other "imaging" information of importance for Dennis to use.
>
> You could very well be the first to present a "modern image" by an
> amateur of the Virgo Diamond.  Good things could become of this.
>
> Let me know? I will be out tonight if weather permits.
>
> Best regards, Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
> earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
> the heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:29:49 -0700
> From: Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Markarian's Chain
>
> I hope you are able to read this file. It is a word file. I annotated
> the galaxies I could identify but may have missed some.
>
> Jim Gianoulakis
> Manager Application Services Mobile
> 702-876-7093
> 702-253-7213 fax
> jim.gianoulakis at swgas.com
>
> >>> roger ivester <drivester at hotmail.com> 4/2/2009 5:54 AM >>>
> Jim,
>
> Just could not help to notice one most interesting features of your
> write-up. You have some very nice descriptive notes of some of the most
> interesting galaxies. Good job!!!!
>
> This is my "humble" request. If you image, please do as Jim has done.
> Carefully examine your image and write some notes. This will improve
> your observing skills and allow you to see fine details that you may
> have overlooked. Again Jim, good job and thanks for sharing.
>
> I should have asked you for permission but there are plenty of amateurs
> admiring your excellent work as of this moment...8:41 AM local EDT.
>
> Re: Galaxy classifications. This would be a great job for someone who
> does not do a great deal of observing, but would like to contribute and
> be recognized for your efforts. We will all learn something from "your
> research".
>
> Best regards, and thanks again...Roger Ivester
>
>
>    I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the
> earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into
> the heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:49:12 -0700
> From: Jim.Gianoulakis at swgas.com
> To: lvas at lvlug.org
> Subject: Re: [Lvas] Markarian's Chain
>
> I captured this image this evening from my backyard and wanted to
> share.
>
> Jim Gianoulakis
> Manager Application Services Mobile
> 702-876-7093
> 702-253-7213 fax
> jim.gianoulakis at swgas.com
>
> >>> Fred Rayworth <rayworth1969 at hotmail.com> 3/29/2009 12:37 PM >>>
> All,
>
> My final input for Roger's observing project is to see if I could see
> all nine galaxies aroud M-84 and M-86, which is a large part of
> Markarian's Chain in Virgo, the realm of galaxies.
>
> Virgo was high enough in the sky to take a crack at it, and with a
> little zap of my green laser finder, I had this group in the field of
> view in an instant.
>
> I had no trouble at all seeing all nine galaxies in the field, and
> because of this observing project, I saw that ninth one for the first
> time, only because I knew it was there.
>
> NGC-4387 is magnitude 13, and considering the night, it was by far the
> faintest galaxy I saw all night. If I hadn't known it was there, I would
> have missed it. In fact, several other people looked at the group and
> only counted 8. I don't feel bad missing it so many times before!
>
> I used a 26mm Q-70 eyepiece from Orion. It has a 70 degree field, and
> despite a fishbowl effect at the edges, I had no problem seeing even the
> galaxies at the edges. Of course, I moved around a bit to catch each one
> in the center of the field, but to satisfy the observing challenge, I
> DID see all 9 at once in the field.
>
> All of the galaxies, even M-84 and M-86 were featureless. No mottling
> or any detail at all, but they were all definite faint fuzzies and all
> had distinct shapes. The most fascinating of the group, to me, was
> NGC-4388, an edge-on spiral. It was a nice, though faint large streak,
> and out sized and outclassed the similar NGC-4402.
>
> This is the stuff I live for! Seeing nine galaxies at once, and being
> able to positively identify every one of them is a real thrill.
>
> Attached is my requisite crummy drawing, but it should give you an idea
> of what you will see if you have enough aperture.
>
> Fred
>
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