[Lvas] My Rant

Wed Apr 1 22:41:55 PDT 2009

Roger,

I think we would be honored to be included in your article.  I see no 
problem (legally or otherwise) with us being mentioned in your article 
so please consider this as authorization to do so.

Take care.

Rob

roger ivester wrote:
> Rob,
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> What a well written and touching e-mail. I want to personally thank 
> you and the entire membership of the LVAS for allowing me to be a part.
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> You are so right...we need diversity, different skills and opinions. 
> The LVAS has been a tremendous help to me also, as you have allowed me 
> to share my platform. Thank you all.
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> I am currently working on an article in the hopes that Sky and 
> Telescope will be interested. I have sent an e-mail (this morning) to 
> my mentor, astronomy professor, and good friend...his name is Tom 
> English. I want him to co-author this "article"  with me. It would be 
> important to me, for he and I to do this together. We have spent many 
> hours in my backyard observing faint objects, at the observatory, and 
> yes sometimes disagreeing on many things. A difference of opinion 
> is often a "wonderful" thing as all involved can possibly learn 
> something. I normally am the one to learn.
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> The subject: "The Virgo Diamond". I have already received an image of 
> this object from one of our readers from South Carolina. I must get 
> his permission to use this image before I can forward to you. This was 
> my surprise announcement that I eluted to a couple of days ago. This 
> may be the only modern day "amateur image" of this object in the world 
> today. I can hardly wait for you to see it. It clearly shows the fifth 
> star, and the nebulosity that I saw was only scattered light from my 
> telescope optics.
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> Rob, I must now ask you and the LVAS if I can have your permission to 
> prominently list the LVAS and our correspondence in this article? If 
> we had not started our observing project all my data would still be in 
> my archives file. Thank you LVAS all again. I am hoping that the 
> "diamond" will become one of the most viewed "imaged" and 
> "sketched" objects of the future.  
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> Astrophysics at its best...possibly five gravitationally bound stars.
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> Rob, please let me know if I have your permission.
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> Best regard to my friends of the LVAS....Roger Ivester
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> the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look 
> up into the heavens and say there is no God.      Abraham Lincoln/
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> > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:30:12 -0700
> > From: scopegeek at gmail.com
> > To: lvas at lvlug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Lvas] My Rant
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> > LVAS Discussion Group Members,
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> > I'm going to jump in on this one.
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> > First of all, Fred; I have the utmost respect for astronomers like you
> > and Roger. I know it's taken years and maybe even decades for you to
> > develop the observing skills you now have. I can appreciate the details
> > you include in your observation notes, because I struggled the first
> > time I tried to put on paper the things I was seeing in the eyepiece.
> > Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
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> > Second; I hope I haven't (but I'm afraid I have) contributed to you
> > feeling isolated. My exuberance over my Mallincam experience has
> > probably added to your feeling of isolation. I consider video-assisted
> > observing a cross between visual observing and astro-photography.
> > Because of the various treatments I've had for cancer, my eyesight 
> isn't
> > what it used to be and my ability to discern detail in faint fuzzies is
> > continually diminishing. I don't have the patience for true CCD
> > imaging. I won't spend hours to capture one image like
> > astro-photographers do. But I'm thrilled by the fact that I can see
> > galaxies and dark nebula with my Mallincam that I would never be 
> able to
> > see otherwise.
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> > As for our observing project, I have used yours and Roger's 
> descriptions
> > of the Crab Nebula to further enhance my video-assisted viewing of this
> > object and hope to do the same with the future objects we jointly
> > study. Without them I would not have known to look for an "S" shaped
> > pattern. I think what we have in this group effort is exactly what this
> > hobby needs - a cross-fertilization of techniques and skills beneficial
> > to all that participate.
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> > I'm sorry that any have been offended by the recent exchange of emails
> > and I hope that no further retaliatory exchanges occur. Our joint
> > observing project is too valuable to all of us to have it tainted by
> > some less than careful choices of words.
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> > Your friend and fellow observer (although video-assisted),
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> > Rob Lambert
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> > Fred Rayworth wrote:
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> > > All,
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> > > I guess I upset a few people. That wasn't really my intent, but it
> > > came out that way, and kind of snobbish to boot. However, I don't 
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> > > back anything I said as I am stating facts as I've seen them in the
> > > field, at meetings, and NOT just here in Las Vegas.....
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> > > The only thing that makes you a serious hobbyist, is your dedication
> > > to astronomy, whether with a camera or an eyepiece, or both. It isn't
> > > defined by which model so and so you have, which eyepiece, or which
> > > discipline. I certainly didn't want to imply otherwise. At times, I
> > > just feel kind of isolated, as do many other observers I know.
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> > > For any of you astro-imagers out there that don't hate me for life,
> > > I'd love to see an image of those 9 galaxies in Markarian's Chain 
> that
> > > I did such a crummy drawing of. That would be a hoot.
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