[Lvas] Dobsonian FS ad

[Jay.Piper at CH2M.com]

I meant to add that the asking price is $400 for the Dobsonian & accessories...

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From: Piper, Jay/LAS 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:38 AM
To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society
Subject: RE: [Lvas] My Rant


Rob Lambert said:  "...I think what we have in this group effort is exactly what this hobby needs - a cross-fertilization of techniques and skills beneficial to all that participate..."   I have to agree with Rob!  maybe adding: ... in a shared enthusiasm for and appreciation of the sky.


FYI - there is an 11" or 12" Dobsonian for sale (hard to find with other items listed) in the current Las Vegas newspaper classifieds "miscellaneous" ads, at 523-3002, owner's name is Dick, on NW side of town, includes 'scope and accessories. 

Best regards, Jay

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From: lvas-bounces at lvlug.org [mailto:lvas-bounces at lvlug.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:30 PM
To: Las Vegas Astronomical Society
Subject: Re: [Lvas] My Rant

LVAS Discussion Group Members,

I'm going to jump in on this one. 

First of all, Fred; I have the utmost respect for astronomers like you and Roger.  I know it's taken years and maybe even decades for you to develop the observing skills you now have.  I can appreciate the details you include in your observation notes, because I struggled the first time I tried to put on paper the things I was seeing in the eyepiece.  
Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

Second; I hope I haven't (but I'm afraid I have) contributed to you feeling isolated.  My exuberance over my Mallincam experience has probably added to your feeling of isolation.  I consider video-assisted observing a cross between visual observing and astro-photography.  
Because of the various treatments I've had for cancer, my eyesight isn't what it used to be and my ability to discern detail in faint fuzzies is continually diminishing.  I don't have the patience for true CCD imaging.  I won't spend hours to capture one image like astro-photographers do.  But I'm thrilled by the fact that I can see galaxies and dark nebula with my Mallincam that I would never be able to see otherwise. 

As for our observing project, I have used yours and Roger's descriptions of the Crab Nebula to further enhance my video-assisted viewing of this object and hope to do the same with the future objects we jointly study.  Without them I would not have known to look for an "S" shaped pattern.  I think what we have in this group effort is exactly what this hobby needs - a cross-fertilization of techniques and skills beneficial to all that participate.

I'm sorry that any have been offended by the recent exchange of emails and I hope that no further retaliatory exchanges occur.  Our joint observing project is too valuable to all of us to have it tainted by some less than careful choices of words.

Your friend and fellow observer (although video-assisted),

Rob Lambert



Fred Rayworth wrote:
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> I guess I upset a few people. That wasn't really my intent, but it 
> came out that way, and kind of snobbish to boot. However, I don't take 
> back anything I said as I am stating facts as I've seen them in the 
> field, at meetings, and NOT just here in Las Vegas.....
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> The only thing that makes you a serious hobbyist, is your dedication 
> to astronomy, whether with a camera or an eyepiece, or both. It isn't 
> defined by which model so and so you have, which eyepiece, or which 
> discipline. I certainly didn't want to imply otherwise. At times, I 
> just feel kind of isolated, as do many other observers I know.
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> For any of you astro-imagers out there that don't hate me for life, 
> I'd love to see an image of those 9 galaxies in Markarian's Chain that 
> I did such a crummy drawing of. That would be a hoot.
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